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FamNet, NZGDB, and the NZ Society of Genealogists


Introduction

I am a candidate for election to the council of the NZ Society of Genealogists, but with a couple of other candidates I have been attacked in the society's magazine  without any opportunity to reply. This, and Richard Stedman's attempt to expel me  and another candidate from the society, can only be interpreted as a blatant attempt to rig the election.

As the society has not given us any opportunity to balance Richard's published comments this web page has been set up to set the record straight. It also serves as an FAQ of the proposals that I have made to the society about NZGDB/FamNet.

Click here to go to a page that deals with the NZSG governance issues that have lead to calls for an SGM

A blog facility has been provided to allow you to comment. All comments are the responsibilty of the person making them.

Click here to go to the blogs page

What's New

Peter's Membership Renewal was refused
A Rule 7 complaint has been made about Jan Gow
A facilitiation meeting was held on the 13th March. A transcript of this meeting was briefly on the society's web site, but this has now (20th March) been removed.
I have written up some notes on the Quorum issue
The complaint against Ian has been upheld, and he has been expelled. Click here to see his letter from the society.
The complaint against me has been upheld, and I have been censured. Click here to see the letter from the society.

Candidates Pages

An invitation is offered to any candidate to have a page here. Just send me what you want published, and it will be so, with no censorship or change. You can send me Word, PDF, or HTML. Ultimately I'd like to have a proper Content Management System that will allow you to do this yourself without requiring somebody else like me to act as webmaster, but that's for the future.  I have set up a page for myself, starting with my "500 Word Statement", feel free to adopt this template, or any other format that you like.
Name Candidate for Nominator Seconder
Robert Barnes Council Leone Bronlund Lynette Dear
 

NZGDB and NZSG - Introduction


Since its inception NZGDB has been the target of a campaign of misinformation and vilification from an influential faction in the NZ Society of Genealogists, reaching low points with an allegation of data theft, and most recently the publication of an editoral attacking me and other candidates in the current NZSG elections. Perhaps this faction resents the success of NZGDB, which has attracted thousands of users, many of them society members, while its own Digital Archive has been an utter failure. No wonder that they fear competition - this site is doing what the society should be doing. In fact the project was intended from the outset to be a society project, but our initial approaches were spurned, and the relationship has spiralled downhill from there.   Richard Stedman's attack is only the latest in a long series.

Richard Stedman's Complaints


Last week I received this letter from the NZSG, informing me of a complaint against me by Richard Stedman.

Here is the post to MemList that he complains about.

Here is my response to the complaint.

On 19th February I received this letter from the society.  Basically the complaint has been upheld, and I have been censured.  I wonder what they make of this web site?

Ian also received a complaint

Here is Ian's response.

The complaint against Ian has been upheld, and he has been expelled. Click here to see his letter from the society.

Richard's report in the NZ Genealogist


Ian and I were attacked in the society's magazine. As we are currently candidates it is improper (in my opinion) for such biased reporting to be distributed to members without giving either of us any right of reply.   Regarding me and FamNet, Richard gets several things wrong that could have been easily checked - although not without alerting us to his article in advance.  I guess an ambush to skew the election is what Richard wanted.

Here is my response on Memlist, (slightly edited). 

Richard raises two issues as far as I am concerned.   Firstly, he mentions the "... controversy late in 2008, in which data unique to the NZSG website was alleged to have been found on the NZGDB".  This is a clever slur, creating an implication that we (NZGDB) have taken the society's data.  As Richard well knows, the facts of this are very different to his sly innuendos.  There is no dispute that the data in question was, briefly, on NZGDB.  But we couldn't possibly have taken it from the NZSG web site.  The only possible explanation is that somebody (unknown) tried to set a trap for us.  Yet to some people our guilt is undeniable, no matter what the evidence.  Just like the witch in this Monty Python sketch.

The second matter, FamNet, has more substance, but in taking outdated images from the website and republishing them without permission - somewhat ironic when he has accused me of being casual about copyright - he draws incorrect conclusions that a little fact checking would have avoided. The matter of FamNet is dealt with more completely here In summary, FamNet a software concept (not an organization) that several of us are very enthusiastic about and would like to see adopted by the society. It is the basis of the facilities that I discussed with Lynne and Joe, and could be highly complementary to the society. However if the society chooses to regard it as hostile competition, then it will become competition.  This would be a wasted opportunity.

Is Richard's opinion private, or the view of Council?   It is claimed that the Council were as surprised as the rest of us when his editorials appeared , but one would have expected an immediate statement to this effect and some disciplinary action. Perhaps it's still coming. The lack of any immediate and strong action suggests that Council are quite happy to let this opinion be published, especially with some deniability.

Do I have a Conflict of Interest? Or a Secret Agenda?


I want to make NZGDB very successful: there's no secret about this. I believe that an association with NZSG for FamNet would be very beneficial to both NZGDB and the Society.

Do I have a conflict of interest? No more than the Editor, who also seeks payments for his services. I have no problem with the Society paying it's suppliers, and I assume that Richard's payments are appropriate for his time and skills. Yes, as a councillor I will have potential conflicts, but these can be managed. In anything concerning NZGDB/FamNet I will take the role of advocate, not judge, and withdraw from discussion and votes where there is a conflict.

Richard obviously has a problem with me. I am told that was he was one of the leaders in the campaign to damage NZGDB by taking a complaint to police instead of properly dealing with it through the society's complaint procedure. Is it a coincidence that this occurred shortly after I'd submitted a strategy paper proposing that the magazine's role be downgraded in favour of better Internet facilities

Facilitation meeting, 13th March


A meeting was organized to discuss the issues, and hopefully reach a mediated solution.  However, after asking us (the "signees") to get authority to negotiate, and to come with legal support, council representatives turned up without neither any authority to negotiate nor their legal advisors, both of which had been promised. So, while this was perhaps useful as a forum to get the issues all documented, it fell far short of our expectations, and unable to resolve differences, leaving it necessary to go forward with the SGM's with no common position on any issues..
Click here to read my report of this meeting
Contact me if you would like me to send you a copy of Marianne's notes.
Click here to read Jan Gow's submission to this meeting
Click here to read Ken Baker's submission to this meeting
Click here to read Kapiti Branch's submission to this meeting

Some meetings have subsequently occurred with a "negotiating team" of Clive Palmer and myself for the "signees", and Marianne and Joe for the society, but this has not received any official (Council) approval, and Joe and Marianne are doing this on their own initiative. Even so, there have been some useful discussions.
 

Complaint against Jan Gow


A recent development is that a couple of NZSG officers have laid a Rule 7 complaint against Jan Gow. It must be conceded that the council has no discretion: if a complaint is received, then they must deal with it. It is however incredible that anybody in the society would label Jan "a disgrace to the honour of being a Life Member," especially anybody who is aware of her work for the society over the years and her current role in organizing the Family History Fair. To say, as the complainants do, that the role of a life member should be "to endorse and assist the current council..." makes it clear that only sycophancy is permitted. It is also disgraceful that the society has now, without discussion with her, arranged for somebody else to teach the Legacy classes that she has successfully run for several years.

The background to the matters on which Jan comments are given elsewhere on this page:-
Click here for the nomination condition and Click here for Peter's nomination.

With Jan's permission, here is the letter of complaint that she received:-
Jans Complaint Page 1
Jans Complaint Page 2
Jans Complaint Page 3

Hopefully the council will treat this complaint with the contempt that it deserves.
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